Daryl,
Good evening. You may remember a couple of months back I mentioned how MMR was no longer "registered" because it apparently was not Y2K15 or 16 compliant.
You may also remember me mentioning that MBAG and MDIST had
gone up past echomail day 9999 and did not roll back to 0000, making them
no longer work properly.

Well, now I have noticed something with GT 19 and GT 20. The (v)ersion
menu command gives the proper date and, apparently, messages exported by bgnet and fidogate also carry the correct date.

But if you are reading messages online with GT, messages from 2017 show up
as if they were entered in "1917"! I checked, and messages from 2016 and before are correct. So it has something to do with this year in particular and, I am guessing, future years.

As I have recently been watching the PBS special about how WWI was 100
years ago, being returned to 1917 is a little disturbing. I need to be
sure to get my flu shot this year!

Mike

Mike,

Good evening. You may remember a couple of months back I mentioned how MMR was no longer "registered" because it apparently was not Y2K15 or
16 compliant. You may also remember me mentioning that MBAG and MDIST
had gone up past echomail day 9999 and did not roll back to 0000,
making them no longer work properly.

Yeah, I saw that. I gathered that GT Power Netmail, G-bags, Q-bags, etc. would only be processed by nodes that still had the old MDRIV, MBAG, and
MDIST programs. But, with that glitch, those are no longer usable...and I didn't think that Tom Watt was going to do anything further with those programs...and instead possibly go with QWK Networking. I think B.J.
Guiliot released his stuff as freeware, but I'm not sure.

Well, now I have noticed something with GT 19 and GT 20. The (v)ersion menu command gives the proper date and, apparently, messages exported
by bgnet and fidogate also carry the correct date.

But if you are reading messages online with GT, messages from 2017 show up as if they were entered in "1917"! I checked, and messages from
2016 and before are correct. So it has something to do with this year
in particular and, I am guessing, future years.

There was a utility to correct the date, but didn't know about the 2017 versus 1917 glitch. I had used InterEcho and FIDOGate to toss the FTN
packets. With recent trouble with the MSGID data in Virtual Advanced
(VADV32), I had considered trying to go back to GT, so InterEcho and
FIDOGate would handle the FTN packets. I went back to FTN for the FIDONet echoes, but have switched everything else to QWK Networking.

Also, I was under the impression that Tom Watt was only going to do a
"telnet version" for GT 20 (no email or website interface). I could have worked around that, but the QK (QWK Mail) utility would not process REP packets. I could've created a pre-pack mode workaround with the PDQWK
door, but would have to use pre-pack mode...since the PDQWK door did not
have fossil driver support, and doubt that either Paul Ratcliffe or
Dave Liquorice are still around...even though I have a registered copy
of the PDQWK door. Had it had fossil driver support, I could've used it instead.

As I have recently been watching the PBS special about how WWI was 100 years ago, being returned to 1917 is a little disturbing. I need to be sure to get my flu shot this year!

I get mine each fall.

Daryl

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Also, I was under the impression that Tom Watt was only going to do a "telnet version" for GT 20 (no email or website interface). I could have worked around that, but the QK (QWK Mail) utility would not process REP packets. I could've created a pre-pack mode workaround with the PDQWK door, but would have to use pre-pack mode...since the PDQWK door did not have fossil driver support, and doubt that either Paul Ratcliffe or
Dave Liquorice are still around...even though I have a registered copy
of the PDQWK door. Had it had fossil driver support, I could've used it instead.

I am not certain that fossil driver support would help or not. I was under the impression that the door did work over telnet. It does open up but, as it uses DSZ for all of its file transfers... I have never been able to get it to work, whether I am telneting to my OS2/VMODEM box or to my linux box. So, it is actually useless except by dial-up.

Once upon a time, I was able to at least offer X/Ymodem and a few other internal protocols over telnet, but anymore they are not reliable enough. I don't know if it is the connection being fast or "noisy" or what over telnet, but once a packet gets dropped the protocols are not able to recover like they might over a noisy phone line.

As SBBS has ftp and www servers, I plan to offer files over those routes, and QWK mail via ftp, and give up on doing it with GT over telnet. It is finally starting to show its age. It has been 23 years, so I guess it was time. :)

Mike

Mike,

I am not certain that fossil driver support would help or not. I was under the impression that the door did work over telnet. It does open
up but, as it uses DSZ for all of its file transfers... I have never
been able to get it to work, whether I am telneting to my OS2/VMODEM
box or to my linux box. So, it is actually useless except by dial-up.

I was able to get FDSZ to work instead, even though I have a registered
copy of DSZ. I just renamed FDSZ to DSZ, and it worked.

Virtual Advanced (VADV32) uses VXY for Xmodem, Ymodem, Ymodem-G, and
Zmodem file transfers. I tried to get CEXYZ for similar functions, but
it would LOCK up my telnet clients under Windows 7. So, I tell users that
since uploads aren't required, if you want to download a file, go to the website (http://wx1der.dyndns.org), click on File Area, choose the desired area, click on the desired file, and grab it that way.

Once upon a time, I was able to at least offer X/Ymodem and a few other internal protocols over telnet, but anymore they are not reliable
enough. I don't know if it is the connection being fast or "noisy" or what over telnet, but once a packet gets dropped the protocols are not able to recover like they might over a noisy phone line.

I'm not sure if GT's protocols (Megalink, Super Megalink, etc.) would
work or not. There is also a fossil version of HS/Link, and I think that
Samuel Smith (the author) released a freeware key, after he suffered a burglary, and lost the source code to it.

As SBBS has ftp and www servers, I plan to offer files over those
routes, and QWK mail via ftp, and give up on doing it with GT over telnet. It is finally starting to show its age. It has been 23 years, so I guess it was time. :)

When Bill Watts originally bought the rights to GT Power from Paul
Meiners, he had high hopes for it, including email, a website interface, telnet, FTP, etc. But, sadly, none of that materialized.

At least I can still carry the non-GT Sysop echoes over here via QWK Networking...and the BBS is celebrating its 25th birthday/silver
anniversary today, May 1.

Daryl

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05-01-17 10:06 Daryl Stout wrote to Mike Powell about Re: A Y2K17 issue
Howdy! Daryl,
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As SBBS has ftp and www servers, I plan to offer files over those
routes, and QWK mail via ftp, and give up on doing it with GT over telnet. It is finally starting to show its age. It has been 23 years, so I guess it was time. :)

When Bill Watts originally bought the rights to GT Power from Paul Meiners, he had high hopes for it, including email, a website
interface, telnet, FTP, etc. But, sadly, none of that materialized.

At least I can still carry the non-GT Sysop echoes over here via QWK Networking...and the BBS is celebrating its 25th birthday/silver anniversary today, May 1.

In my mind, when Mike started His BBS You were the Old Timer He learned
from.

I still remember You Both experimenting with using the internet to
transfer GT Mail Packets.

You All DID GOOD!

Thanks es 73 de Ed .-- ----. --- -.. .-.
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At least I can still carry the non-GT Sysop echoes over here via QWK Networking...and the BBS is celebrating its 25th birthday/silver anniversary today, May 1.

In my mind, when Mike started His BBS You were the Old Timer He learned from.

Except my board was 29 in March. :) I learned a lot from Terry McFalls and Tom Currie, who both ran GT boards in the Louisville area at that time.

I still remember You Both experimenting with using the internet to transfer GT Mail Packets.

Back when I was near Louisville, I had it pretty good in that regard. I eventually had a direct (dial-up) UUCP feed and my own domain... It became a little more difficult to do after I moved.

You All DID GOOD!

Thanks, Ed!

Mike

Ed,

In my mind, when Mike started His BBS You were the Old Timer He learned from.

I think Mike was in GT Power before I was. I started with GT 15.50, and
ran 17, 18, and 19 (I somehow missed version 16).

I still remember You Both experimenting with using the internet to transfer GT Mail Packets.

It's a lot cheaper than doing it via dial-up. If there was way to use
the VoIP data line (like a Fax Modem, say with MagicJack), I'd look into reimplementing faxes and dial-up capabilities to the BBS...but, I don't
know if that can be done. However, I understand that the phone companies
are converting all the old analog lines to digital by 2020, if not before.

You All DID GOOD!

Being a Sysop, no matter what software they run, is truly, a labor of
love.

Daryl

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Mike,

Except my board was 29 in March. :) I learned a lot from Terry
McFalls and Tom Currie, who both ran GT boards in the Louisville area
at that time.

I figured you had been in GT longer than I had.

I still remember You Both experimenting with using the internet to transfer GT Mail Packets.

Back when I was near Louisville, I had it pretty good in that regard.
I eventually had a direct (dial-up) UUCP feed and my own domain... It became a little more difficult to do after I moved.

At least with the telnet/web BBS's, and with FTelnet, one can logon via
a website. Too bad GT Power apparently won't have things like email or a
web interface. And, the way Paul Meiners designed the netmail deal, once
the netmail day passed 9999, they basically are useless. I remember current owner Tom Watt noting that "one of the stipulations for having the rights
to GT was to NOT release the source code, including for the netmail
programs".

Daryl

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