On 02-27-19 11:27, Richard Menedetter wrote to MeaTLoTioN <=-

Hi MeaTLoTioN!

Your message arrived here completely garbled.
There are some strange codes intervened in between ASCII text.
I would be very happy if the next time you ONLY send ASCII text, as it
is near impossible to read the mess that arrived here.

Thanx in advance!

The message was in ANSI, I was able to read it using my ANSI viewer. :)


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Hi Richard!

Let us stick to something that is universally readable by all
participants of this echo.
Otherwise people will start to post RoboFX codes ...

What is interesting is that the message you copied and pasted that was
garbled had no ansi in it, that bit was just plain text, only my
auto-signature has ansi, which I have disabled for the purpose of this
message as a way of testing.

I use Mystic BBS to send/receive echo mail, and that has functionality to
parse ansi/ascii/plain text just fine. I understand if using MCI Pipe codes didn't work as I believe they're either unique to or rarely used outside of Mystic, however ansi I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) was a global standard
and I thought was "universally readable" and anything that can't read ansi is probably too antiquated to be used anyway. I mean I was using ansi back in
the 80's and 90's when I first started using bbses.

Anyway, for the purpose of this message I have turned off my signature as I already said, which should mean that no ansi codes of any kind are being sent (by me). I cannot however know however if any get added by Mystic or any
other hubs as this message passes through them.

I hope that you will accept my apology for not being fully aware of such old and antiquated softwares still in use that probably go back before I was born (I'm 41), and I shall try to remember to turn off my signature whenever I
post in RetroNet, the network for retro-games and other bbs-style retro nostalgia.

Thanks, and best wishes,
Christian aka MeaTLoTioN (in plain text).

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On 02-28-19 13:21, Richard Menedetter wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Hi Vk3jed!

28 Feb 2019 21:24, from Vk3jed -> Richard Menedetter:

The message was in ANSI, I was able to read it using my ANSI viewer.

And I was not able to read it with my ASCII viewer.
As ASCII can be read by ASCII and ANSI viewers, I would propose to use that! Otherwise communication is massively hindered.

Take that up with the OP. :)


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On 02-28-19 12:46, MeaTLoTioN wrote to Richard Menedetter <=-

What is interesting is that the message you copied and pasted that was garbled had no ansi in it, that bit was just plain text, only my auto-signature has ansi, which I have disabled for the purpose of this message as a way of testing.

Once there's a bit of ANSI, the whole message becomes ANSI. I think pipe codes can also be converted to ANSI under some circumstances. But either way, colours in sigs are a bad idea, because of this.

And for those of uss with offline mail, while we can read ANSI messages, replying can often be an issue, because when we quote a message, it's full of ANSI codes, which renders the quoting useless. The proper fix here is for the offline reader to be able to strip ANSI from quoted text, or offer an optional ANSI text editor.


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