Hi all,
Out of curiosity how many folks have a machine running MS-DOS currently? Any of the original versions.. No DOS-BOX or such.. just Microsoft.
If so, what are you using it for? I miss it for sure. It just struck me that someone may still be using a copy of it for some reason or another.

Thanks for any feedback!

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On 01 Dec 2019, Moshpit said the following...

Hi all,
Out of curiosity how many folks have a machine running MS-DOS currently? Any of the original versions.. No DOS-BOX or such.. just Microsoft. If so, what are you using it for? I miss it for sure. It just struck me that someone may still be using a copy of it for some reason
or another.

I have 6.22 running inside a VM, I don't use it I just have it setup as a
look back type of thing, I have a VM of all Windows versions from 3.11 to 10..

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Hi Moshpit!

01 Dec 2019 18:06, from Moshpit -> All:

Out of curiosity how many folks have a machine running MS-DOS currently? Any of the original versions.. No DOS-BOX or such.. just Microsoft.

Not for a very long time.
I have DosBox setup on one of my computers.

CU, Ricsi

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I have 6.22 running inside a VM, I don't use it I just have it setup as a look back type of thing, I have a VM of all Windows versions from 3.11
to 10..

That sounds really fun though! I may give that a try. It'd scare the kids for sure! Haha

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On 03 Dec 2019, Moshpit said the following...

That sounds really fun though! I may give that a try. It'd scare the
kids for sure! Haha

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It's amazing if you look at Windows from 3.1 to now. The changes it has gone through..

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Yup, I have several DOS machines that I use all the time. I'm a fan of vintage office software so I do a lot of AutoCAD and other CAD system stuff.

A lot of the enjoyment is building the machines up to insane specs that I could
have never afforded. The machine I'm using right now for example is a 386/40 with 64mb of ram. Back when the first 386 machines were out, I had one for AutoCAD and having 64mb of ram would have cost $8k.

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Moshpit wrote to All <=-

Hi all,
Out of curiosity how many folks have a machine running MS-DOS currently? Any of the original versions.. No DOS-BOX or such.. just Microsoft.
If so, what are you using it for? I miss it for sure. It just
struck me that someone may still be using a copy of it for some reason
or another.

Thanks for any feedback!

|15.|08- |02∙- |08M|04o|12s|15hpit |08«» B|03L|11A|15CK FLAG |07-|13∙ |08-|07.
|07`--|08-∙|15<|08blackflag|02.|08acid|02.|08org|13:|0823|15>|07----|15'

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I have two machines running MS-DOS 6.22. One I don't use, the other occasionally for games (including using it for BBS's). My two girls have found "Thunder Zone", that DOS based Spacewars clone, and old DOS machines comes in handy to set up a two player over null modem cable.

But that machine is more for historical curiosity and nostalgia. DosBox serves better when I need to run DOS games most of the time.

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On 01 Dec 2019, Moshpit said the following...

12
Hi all,
Out of curiosity how many folks have a machine running MS-DOS currently? Any of the original versions.. No DOS-BOX or such.. just Microsoft. If so, what are you using it for? I miss it for sure. It just struck me that someone may still be using a copy of it for some reason
or another.

I am, running MTCP and Telnet to dial this BBS and reply to your message :-)

There is still a lot of interest in MS-DOS/FreeDOS/etc.

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Jikey wrote to Moshpit <=-

On 01 Dec 2019, Moshpit said the following...

12
Hi all,
Out of curiosity how many folks have a machine running MS-DOS currently? Any of the original versions.. No DOS-BOX or such.. just Microsoft. If so, what are you using it for? I miss it for sure. It just struck me that someone may still be using a copy of it for some reason
or another.

I am, running MTCP and Telnet to dial this BBS and reply to your
message :-)

There is still a lot of interest in MS-DOS/FreeDOS/etc.

I have recently started using DOS more, dusting off my old 486's and getting them fixed up and working. All that is left, is to locate the case of the XT (if I haven't lost it in one of my moves) and use a BBS from that. I did have Linux on one of those machines, but I nuked it, as there really isn't much point in running an old Linux distro just to have. But DOS, yes, there is a reason.

I might look at adding ZModem support the mTCP's Telnet.


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Jikey wrote to Moshpit <=-

On 01 Dec 2019, Moshpit said the following...

12
Hi all,
Out of curiosity how many folks have a machine running MS-DOS currently? Any of the original versions.. No DOS-BOX or such.. just Microsoft. If so, what are you using it for? I miss it for sure. It just struck me that someone may still be using a copy of it for some reason
or another.

I am, running MTCP and Telnet to dial this BBS and reply to your
message :-)

There is still a lot of interest in MS-DOS/FreeDOS/etc.

I have recently started using DOS more, dusting off my old 486's and getting them fixed up and working. All that is left, is to locate the case of the XT (if I haven't lost it in one of my moves) and use a BBS from that. I did have Linux on one of those machines, but I nuked it, as there really isn't much point in running an old Linux distro just to have. But DOS, yes, there is a reason.

I might look at adding ZModem support the mTCP's Telnet.


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Hi!

In addition to MTCP and Telnet, I was using RLFossil to take incoming calls to some test DOS BBS setups and it worked great. I never thought I would find ANYTHING that would provide inbound telnet for DOS BBSing but there it was, waiting for me to find it :-)

I agree with you, running an older version of Linux doesn't feel like anything special, but DOS certainly does.

Looking back at the older versions of some of the BBS software out there, it seems the prime year for addons/doors was around 1993. While it is difficult to
license the older stuff these days, it's still out there.

Thanks,
Dean.

◄ ◄ ◄ ◄ ◄ > -=> Jikey wrote to Moshpit <=-

On 01 Dec 2019, Moshpit said the following...

I am, running MTCP and Telnet to dial this BBS and reply to your
message :-)

There is still a lot of interest in MS-DOS/FreeDOS/etc.

I have recently started using DOS more, dusting off my old 486's and
getting
them fixed up and working. All that is left, is to locate the case of
the XT
(if I haven't lost it in one of my moves) and use a BBS from that. I did have
Linux on one of those machines, but I nuked it, as there really isn't
much
point in running an old Linux distro just to have. But DOS, yes, there
is a
reason.

I might look at adding ZModem support the mTCP's Telnet.

... Dennis Katsonis
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Jikey around Friday, May 22nd...

Hi! In addition to MTCP and Telnet, I was using RLFossil to take incoming calls to some test DOS BBS setups and it worked great. I never thought I would find ANYTHING that would provide inbound telnet for DOS BBSing but there it was, waiting for me to find it :-) I agree with you, running an older version of Linux doesn't feel like anything special, but DOS certainly does. Looking back at the older versions of some of the BBS software out there, it seems the prime year for addons/doors was around 1993. While it is difficult to license the older stuff these days, it's still out there. Thanks, Dean.

LOL, this so makes me want to fire up an old copy of Renegade BBS and load one of my old RG boards and be done with it. RG was my favorite of all time; I think it was more about the perfect TIMING like you said, and less that Renegade was some awesome software or whatnot... but I sure have a spot in my heart for Renegade!!! Long live DOS, baby!






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Jikey wrote to Dennisk <=-

Hi!

In addition to MTCP and Telnet, I was using RLFossil to take incoming calls to some test DOS BBS setups and it worked great. I never thought
I would find ANYTHING that would provide inbound telnet for DOS BBSing
but there it was, waiting for me to find it :-)

I agree with you, running an older version of Linux doesn't feel like anything special, but DOS certainly does.

Looking back at the older versions of some of the BBS software out
there, it seems the prime year for addons/doors was around 1993. While
it is difficult to
license the older stuff these days, it's still out there.

Thanks,
Dean.

A DOS BBS sounds interesting, but the single tasking nature of DOS kills off the idea for me. I'm toying with the idea of a private BBS, but I would only use Linux for that. I only wanted mTCP because I couldn't get the MS Networking Client to connect to Samaba. Apparently it is supposed to work, but no configuration I tried got it working. I didn't want to use floppies to transfer, because they are unreliable now and I found read errors where it seemed to write on the other machine OK. I tried LapLink over serial, but its slow, and I forgot how to use it.

mTCP solved the problem, I could FTP files across. Works decently, but requires you to transfer an archive over then, unpack, which isn't always desirable of feasible, especially when backing a system up. EtherDFS came to the rescue here.

The fact I could telnet into BBS's from DOS was a nice bonus, but apart from the experience of seeing them on an old 14 inch CRT again, hmm.

I've been playing with Mystic, and it seems that any program you write can be a "door".

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I have recently started using DOS more, dusting off my old 486's and
getting
them fixed up and working. All that is left, is to locate the case of the

I have been getting a lot of guys calling into ↓caaBSiNTHE↓q1 on MS-DOS machines. Are there any DOS-compatible terminals that support the ↓cbAmiga↓q1's
native ↓ceTopaz↓q1 font? I'd love for them to be able to view the board correctly.

↓cb╗╗ ↓cdaNACHRONiST ↓c1| ↓caabsinthebbs.net:1940↓q1

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Anachronist wrote to Dennisk <=-

I have recently started using DOS more, dusting off my old 486's and getting
them fixed up and working. All that is left, is to locate the case of the

I have been getting a lot of guys calling into ↓caaBSiNTHE↓q1 on MS-DOS machines. Are there any DOS-compatible terminals that support the ↓cbAmiga↓q1's
native ↓ceTopaz↓q1 font? I'd love for them to be able to view the
board correctly.

↓cb.. ↓cdaNACHRONiST ↓c1| ↓caabsinthebbs.net:1940↓q1

None that I know of. One of those calls may have been me... If they are using DosBox, there are more option because DosBox can convert a serial port into a TCP/IP connection, allowing people to use Telix, etc to telnet it.


... Dennis Katsonis
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I have a Tandy 1000 EX with MS-DOS I use for fun every so often. I would love to figure out how to slap an ethernet card in there and use telnet!

-Ag


↓cb╗╗ ↓caAgster

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love to figure out how to slap an ethernet card in there and use telnet!

I bought a couple of 3Com 3c905 PCI cards that came with the packet drivers
on the CD. They were practically new.

Once the packet driver is working correctly, download Mtcp and you can use
the Telnet it comes with. It works well.

Thanks,
Dean.

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None that I know of. One of those calls may have been me... If they are using
DosBox, there are more option because DosBox can convert a serial port
into a
TCP/IP connection, allowing people to use Telix, etc to telnet it.

Thanks for the reply- yes this would be for guys using real hardware. It looks like they may be out of luck!

↓cb╗╗ ↓cdaNACHRONiST ↓c1| ↓caabsinthebbs.net:1940↓q1

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On 05-26-20 16:03, Anachronist wrote to Dennisk <=-

None that I know of. One of those calls may have been me... If they are using
DosBox, there are more option because DosBox can convert a serial port
into a
TCP/IP connection, allowing people to use Telix, etc to telnet it.

Thanks for the reply- yes this would be for guys using real hardware.
It looks like they may be out of luck!

A real machine would require an external serial to telnet converter to do this.
Or as others have said, install a NIC, packet driver and a DOS based TCP/IP suite.


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A real machine would require an external serial to telnet converter to do this.
Or as others have said, install a NIC, packet driver and a DOS based
TCP/IP
suite.

Yes, it's not so much the telnet connectivity I'm concerned about as it is the ↓ceAmiga↓q1 font support. While there were tons of terminals for the ↓ceMiggy↓q1 that supported ↓ceCP437↓q1(often misnomered as "ANSI"), it seems like there weren't any PC DOS terminals that supported ↓ceTopaz↓q1. >_<

↓cb╗╗ ↓cdaNACHRONiST ↓c1| ↓caabsinthebbs.net:1940↓q1

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Anachronist wrote to Dennisk <=-

None that I know of. One of those calls may have been me... If they are using
DosBox, there are more option because DosBox can convert a serial port
into a
TCP/IP connection, allowing people to use Telix, etc to telnet it.

Thanks for the reply- yes this would be for guys using real hardware.
It looks like they may be out of luck!

↓cb.. ↓cdaNACHRONiST ↓c1| ↓caabsinthebbs.net:1940↓q1

I might log in again to Absinthe on real hardware, once my internet is back up and running and I'm not relying on a tethered phone for connection.


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I might log in again to Absinthe on real hardware, once my internet is
back up
and running and I'm not relying on a tethered phone for connection.

I plan on offering traditional phone lines this year, glad to know that some people are still doing it old school :)

↓cb╗╗ ↓cdaNACHRONiST ↓c1| ↓caabsinthebbs.net:1940↓q1

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On 05-27-20 15:05, Anachronist wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Yes, it's not so much the telnet connectivity I'm concerned about as it
is the ↓ceAmiga↓q1 font support. While there were tons of terminals for the ↓ceMiggy↓q1 that supported ↓ceCP437↓q1(often misnomered as "ANSI"),
it seems like there weren't any PC DOS terminals that supported ↓ceTopaz↓q1. >_<

Well, that looked ugly here, but yeah I have no idea. I don't know if I've ever called an Amiga BBS. The majority were DOS based.


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Anachronist wrote to Dennisk <=-

None that I know of. One of those calls may have been me... If they are using
DosBox, there are more option because DosBox can convert a serial port
into a
TCP/IP connection, allowing people to use Telix, etc to telnet it.

Thanks for the reply- yes this would be for guys using real hardware.
It looks like they may be out of luck!

↓cb.. ↓cdaNACHRONiST ↓c1| ↓caabsinthebbs.net:1940↓q1

I might log in again to Absinthe on real hardware, once my internet is back up and running and I'm not relying on a tethered phone for connection.


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Anachronist wrote to Vk3jed <=-

A real machine would require an external serial to telnet converter to do this.
Or as others have said, install a NIC, packet driver and a DOS based TCP/IP
suite.

Yes, it's not so much the telnet connectivity I'm concerned about as it
is the ↓ceAmiga↓q1 font support. While there were tons of terminals for the ↓ceMiggy↓q1 that supported ↓ceCP437↓q1(often misnomered as "ANSI"),
it seems like there weren't any PC DOS terminals that supported ↓ceTopaz↓q1. >_<

↓cb.. ↓cdaNACHRONiST ↓c1| ↓caabsinthebbs.net:1940↓q1

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Any DOS based program would be using the VGA font which is build into the card.
It can be changed but I'm not aware of any DOS based terminal program which could do so. Perhaps a Windows one could, if that font was installed.

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Any DOS based program would be using the VGA font which is build into the card.
It can be changed but I'm not aware of any DOS based terminal program
which
could do so. Perhaps a Windows one could, if that font was installed.

Yes, there are many Windows terminals(Syncterm, Netrunner, etc) that offer Amiga fonts; aBSiNTHE transmits codes that will auto-switch those terminals to the correct one. Those use TTY fonts so I think that DOS terminals would indeed
be out of luck >_<

I wonder if it would be possible to compile Syncterm for DOS? I'll have to ask the developer, he's been active lately.

↓cb╗╗ ↓cdaNACHRONiST ↓c1| ↓caabsinthebbs.net:1940↓q1

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Dennisk around Thursday, May 28th...

Any DOS based program would be using the VGA font which is build into the card. It can be changed but I'm not aware of any DOS based terminal program which could do so. Perhaps a Windows one could, if that font was installed.

There were some DOS textmode programs that changed fonts back in the day. I think even Norton Commander did it to add some symbols? I can't remember the details/how it worked - I assume in memory patching. There are some articles floating around on the web about it somewhere.

...with that said, I can't think of any terminal that did this for non-DOS style fonts. Maybe just no one did it, or maybe the patching is too limited?


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Anachronist wrote to Dennisk <=-

I might log in again to Absinthe on real hardware, once my internet is
back up
and running and I'm not relying on a tethered phone for connection.

I plan on offering traditional phone lines this year, glad to know that some people are still doing it old school :)

↓cb.. ↓cdaNACHRONiST ↓c1| ↓caabsinthebbs.net:1940↓q1

I'm in Australia, so I probably won't be calling. We have new NBN internet infrastructure, and I'm not even sure a modem will work over the phone line at all anymore, which is a shame.


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Anachronist wrote to Dennisk <=-

Any DOS based program would be using the VGA font which is build into the card.
It can be changed but I'm not aware of any DOS based terminal program which
could do so. Perhaps a Windows one could, if that font was installed.

Yes, there are many Windows terminals(Syncterm, Netrunner, etc) that
offer Amiga fonts; aBSiNTHE transmits codes that will auto-switch those terminals to the correct one. Those use TTY fonts so I think that DOS terminals would indeed
be out of luck >_<

I wonder if it would be possible to compile Syncterm for DOS? I'll have
to ask the developer, he's been active lately.

↓cb.. ↓cdaNACHRONiST ↓c1| ↓caabsinthebbs.net:1940↓q1

What about for Windows 3.1? If it Windows based, then it has nothing to do with DOS.

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On 05-29-20 18:40, Dennisk wrote to Anachronist <=-

I'm in Australia, so I probably won't be calling. We have new NBN internet infrastructure, and I'm not even sure a modem will work over
the phone line at all anymore, which is a shame.

Depends on your provider. One of mine can do G.711, which should work fine with a modem, since it's the same as what was used on digital exchanges.


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Hey all,

sorry I only just caught this thread now, so late to the party!

I'm a big fan of DOS based networking and connect to most BBS's from my XT, which uses mTCP, naturally ;). If you don't know about mTCP, definitely check that out. I have made a bunch of how-to videos on YT to help get set up. The all-rounder video shows how toget started if you don't have the software on your machine (so covering things like sneakernet, laplink cables etc).

Check out the video here: if you are interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0qGq3SpDt0
my channel on many more Retro (mainly DOS) computery things here: https://www.youtube.com/alsgeeklab

I'd personally love to see SyncTERM for MS-DOS that works ontop of mTCP, but I reckon that would be a fair amount of work. A good compromise would be ZModem support in mTelnet. Adding TOPAZ support again would be a big ask there. Not impossible, but for the amount of users on DOS systems that would call Amiga boards, you'd need a lot of them to warrant such a feature add IMO!

Have a super day!
Alistair // hyjinx
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On Tue 4-Aug-2020 5:09a, Hyjinx said to Moshpit:

I'd personally love to see SyncTERM for MS-DOS that works ontop of mTCP,
but I reckon that would be a fair amount of work. A good compromise would
be ZModem support in mTelnet. Adding TOPAZ support again would be a big
ask there. Not impossible, but for the amount of users on DOS systems that would call Amiga boards, you'd need a lot of them to warrant such a
feature add IMO!

I am think mTelnet already has ZModem support. I could swear, I used to use that when uploading/downloading before I started to use SyncTerm. ↓n1↓c9[↓cf+↓c9] ↓cbK-guide
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On 23 Oct 2020, K-Guide said the following...

On Tue 4-Aug-2020 5:09a, Hyjinx said to Moshpit:

I'd personally love to see SyncTERM for MS-DOS that works ontop of mTCP but I reckon that would be a fair amount of work. A good compromise wou be ZModem support in mTelnet. Adding TOPAZ support again would be a big ask there. Not impossible, but for the amount of users on DOS systems t would call Amiga boards, you'd need a lot of them to warrant such a feature add IMO!

I am think mTelnet already has ZModem support. I could swear, I used to usethat when uploading/downloading before I started to use SyncTerm.

Yeah, it does support downloading, but only Xmodem and YModem. Michael Brutman did say he would consider adding the feature if enough people requested it but I don't think anyone other than me has. Trouble is, many BBS's these day's only
have Zmodem and/or URL download. Xmodem isn't available on many BBS's these days.

Chur,
Al // hyjinx // alsgeeklab.com

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Previously Moshpit said <=-

Hi all,
Out of curiosity how many folks have a machine running MS-DOS currently? Any of the original versions.. No DOS-BOX or such.. just Microsoft.
If so, what are you using it for? I miss it for sure. It just
struck me that someone may still be using a copy of it for some reason
or another.

Thanks for any feedback!

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I just realized I posted an empty reply. Sorry about that. I am currently running MSDos 6.22 as a virtual machine with a pile of dos applications, that have issues running through Mono or Wine. Sadly some of these programs were never ported to window/linux.

Mark

Previously Moshpit said <=-

Hi all,
Out of curiosity how many folks have a machine running MS-DOS currently? Any of the original versions.. No DOS-BOX or such.. just Microsoft.
If so, what are you using it for? I miss it for sure. It just
struck me that someone may still be using a copy of it for some reason
or another.

Thanks for any feedback!

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My day to day is Windows 10 of course, but I have various PCs including a lot of laptops and desktops. I have a couple of Atari & Commodore PC clones as
well as an original IBM 5160 desktop, IBM 5151 luggable, and some generic clones to name a few.

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Re: Re: Current MS-DOS
By: 8-Bit to mseifert on Mon Feb 01 2021 11:49 am

My day to day is Windows 10 of course, but I have various PCs including a lot of laptops and desktops. I have a couple of Atari & Commodore PC clones as well as an original IBM 5160 desktop, IBM 5151 luggable, and some generic clones to name a few.

Sounds like quite a setup. Doing anything fun with all that gear? I envy those that have a bunch of working retro systems in their basement or what-have-you.

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Before last year it was mostly collecting as I had no space but I played with
a few items. I just built a new house and the whole basement will be retro themed with an area the play with computers. I also run 8bitclassics.com so I have been doing this for a while.

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Hey!

Hi all,
Out of curiosity how many folks have a machine running MS-DOS currently? Any of the original versions.. No DOS-BOX or such.. just Microsoft.
If so, what are you using it for? I miss it for sure. It just struck me that someone may still be using a copy of it for some reaso or another.

So my normal machine is an IBM 5160/XT, but at the moment I've just acquired
a 5170/AT, so I'm playing with that. Both of them have network cards and I'm using Michael Brutman's wonderful mTCP software to connect to BBS's with Telnet. I also run ftpsrv on it to transfer files between my Windows 10/Linux boxen to it. There is still a surprisingly large amount of things one can do with it. You can cheat and combine it with something like a Raspberry Pi and from then your world is your oyster; text mode email, browsing, even ANSI
based JPG/GIF file viewing! Not to mention reddit clients, news readers and more.

If you're not cheating, and using it stock, I still really enjoy using that wonderful Model F or Model M for wordprocesing (for example, I wrote the
first draft to the new BBS documentary, "Back to the BBS" on my XT). Of
course there are games and other stuff like that which I play from time to time.

You'll find my adventures in geeking out with all things old computers on my YouTube channel, https://www.youtube.com/alsgeeklab

Cheers!
Al

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Sounds like quite a setup. Doing anything fun with all that gear? I
envy those that have a bunch of working retro systems in their basement
or what-have-you.

Yeah! nice toys he have! and, like you... I have little envy too :)

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with a few items. I just built a new house and the whole basement will
be retro themed with an area the play with computers. I also run 8bitclassics.com so I have been doing this for a while.

Wow! man, when you have your basement setup ready PLEASE post a photo
somewhere so we, poor mortals, can see that! pleeeease?

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Re: Re: Current MS-DOS
By: Don Rolo to 8-Bit on Sat Feb 13 2021 02:08 pm

Wow! man, when you have your basement setup ready PLEASE post a photo somewhere so we, poor mortals, can see that! pleeeease?

Sometimes I watch with lustful thoughts the YouTube videos of folks that have crazy custom Home Theaters, like the Star Trek themed one complete with automatic sliding door and LCARS displays.

I think now if I had infinte money I would build a Retro Arcade / Retro Computing Home Theater. It would be fun to have the walls lined with retro machines, and a big screen up front, comfy seating and Dolby Atmos. With automations to dim the computer screens when a movie starts. :-)

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Wow! man, when you have your basement setup ready PLEASE post a photo somewhere so we, poor mortals, can see that! pleeeease?

Definitely. The idea is to have people over to enjoy it as well. Most of them will be set up to play with and I will take batches to various retro computer events in the area.

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Sometimes I watch with lustful thoughts the YouTube videos of folks that have crazy custom Home Theaters, like the Star Trek themed one complete with automatic sliding door and LCARS displays.

I think now if I had infinte money I would build a Retro Arcade / Retro Computing Home Theater. It would be fun to have the walls lined with retro machines, and a big screen up front, comfy seating and Dolby
Atmos. With automations to dim the computer screens when a movie
starts. :-)

That was sort of the idea since I started collecting. I have hauled my equipment over the past 25 years and just built it up. Now I am to a point I can start building my basement and enjoying it. I am actually glad I did it this way as I got a lot of my items over the years cheaper than what they go for now.

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I think now if I had infinte money I would build a Retro Arcade / Retro Computing Home Theater. It would be fun to have the walls lined with retro machines, and a big screen up front, comfy seating and Dolby
Atmos. With automations to dim the computer screens when a movie
starts. :-)

That sounds dope!
If I had the money, probably I'll made some sort of 80 arcade local at my basement. With all the look and letter signs of that era :)

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Re: Re: Current MS-DOS
By: Don Rolo to Bob Roberts on Mon Feb 15 2021 04:49 pm

That sounds dope!
If I had the money, probably I'll made some sort of 80 arcade local at my basement. With all the look and letter signs of that era :)

Pre-covid I really enjoyed the trend of "barcades." Having a basement barcade/home theater sounds like the golden ticket.

(and now we're completely off topic)

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Hi!

I just saw this post and have just subscribed. Happy to see a Youtube channel like this out there.

Thanks,
Dean.

Check out the video here: if you are interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0qGq3SpDt0
my channel on many more Retro (mainly DOS) computery things here: https://www.youtube.com/alsgeeklab

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mputer stuff will resume
soon!

Cheers,
Al // hyjinx

Cheers,
hyjinx // youtube.com/alsgeeklab

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soon!

Cheers,
Al // hyjinx

Cheers,
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On 01 Dec 2019, Moshpit said the following...

Hi all,
Out of curiosity how many folks have a machine running MS-DOS currently? Any of the original versions.. No DOS-BOX or such.. just Microsoft. If so, what are you using it for? I miss it for sure. It just struck me that someone may still be using a copy of it for some reason
or another.

Thanks for any feedback!

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I'm still using MS-DOS daily. I use it mostly for text entry, calculations
ect. I like the reliability and stability of DOS and it's something that grew on me years ago and I have kept it. I find I like it better for distraction free work, and I like the retro aspect of running it.
One of the palmtops is always with me and is used daily. I like it so well
that I have 2 spares.


I'm using a IBM Aptiva model 2168 486/66 with 32 megs of ram, and a model M keyboard. MS-DOS 6.22. Windows 3.1

AST Advantage NB laptop 486/33 4 megs of ram MS-DOS 6.22 Windows 3.1

HP 100LX and 200 Palmtops running MS-DOS 5 and mainly running the PIM
Software.

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Re: Re: Current MS-DOS
By: mseifert to Moshpit on Sat Jan 30 2021 03:45 pm

Previously Moshpit said <=-

Hi all,
Out of curiosity how many folks have a machine running MS-DOS currently? Any of the original versions.. No DOS-BOX or such.. just Microsoft.
If so, what are you using it for? I miss it for sure. It just struck me that someone may still be using a copy of it for some reason or another.

Thanks for any feedback!

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Like some other users I am using an emulator (PCEM). It started as a project of creating a copy of my first computer. Then a "Museum of computers", emulating from an XT to a Pentium 1, which I am using now. It quickly grew out of control.

Apart from my games, I am doing notes at uni with word6.0, which I later take into my main Linux machine and edit with LibreOffice to fix formatting. Found this to be faster for taking notes on my case (becaue I tend to procrastinate a lot otherwise). I also discovered BBS.... Never had Internet on DOS, so was curious. Sadly PCEM is abandoned now after the deveolper ran out, and I am not sure there are alternatives right now... 86box is Windows only and while I managed to run it on Linux with wine it stopped working soon enough and had no menu to select multiple machines, and DosBox doesn't really let you emulate a full system.

What I am running now on my emulator?
A pentium 75, 32mb of RAM, 2GB HHDD
Ms-Dos 6.22, Windows 3.1
Ne2000 network, SB16 and a GUS card which refuses to work

I want to have a dip with OS/2, might be my next project

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