• Plato Online Again

    From Geo@FREEWAY to All on Tue Apr 24 16:32:00 2018
    Hi All,

    I heard this on the RCR podcast and checked it out. very interesting.

    Probably more-so for our U.S. friends who can remember PLATO. 8-)


    Check it out.

    https://www.irata.online/


    You will need a Plato compatible Terminal prog which you can get from the site. Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
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  • From James Digriz@FREEWAY to Geo on Tue Apr 24 07:15:00 2018
    Geo wrote to All:
    Hi All,

    I heard this on the RCR podcast and checked it out. very interesting.

    Probably more-so for our U.S. friends who can remember PLATO. 8-)


    Check it out.

    https://www.irata.online/


    You will need a Plato compatible Terminal prog which you can get from the site.

    Kewl. What's the difference between irata.online and cyber1.org? Are they networked in any way?

    I hate fragmentation in community-building.



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  • From James Digriz@FREEWAY to Geo on Tue Apr 24 07:43:00 2018
    Geo wrote to All:
    Hi All,

    I heard this on the RCR podcast and checked it out. very interesting.

    Probably more-so for our U.S. friends who can remember PLATO. 8-)


    Check it out.

    https://www.irata.online/


    You will need a Plato compatible Terminal prog which you can get from the site.
    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo

    Also, were the old notesfiles from NovaNET ever archived? Or are they lost forever?

    ps. I was informed a while back that the TI 99/4A was the only home computer that had standalone PLATO courseware, with the PLATO cartridge. Is this correct
    , anyone? Were the Apple II, Atari, etc. PLATO packages terminal-based?



    Greetings, James Digriz
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  • From Beery@FREEWAY to James Digriz on Tue Apr 24 14:21:00 2018
    ps. I was informed a while back that the TI 99/4A was the only home computer that had standalone PLATO courseware, with the PLATO cartridge. Is this correct
    , anyone? Were the Apple II, Atari, etc. PLATO packages terminal-based?

    James, your name is familiar. On AtariAge? I've been trying to place your name as to either a caller of my BBS, the TI-99/4A Yahoogroup, AtariAge, or maybe just here on the Retronet.

    I know the TI 99/4A had their standalone PLATO courseware. I did have an agreement with the owners of the PLATO software to legally distribute the
    Plato diskettes online for a period of 10 years. That timeframe has since elapsed by three or four years if I am not mistaken. I just came across that paperwork this past week.

    For people with young children, the PLATO courseware is a good way to
    introduce them to a computer with some education software.

    Beery

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  • From James Digriz@FREEWAY to Beery on Tue Apr 24 17:31:00 2018
    Beery wrote to James Digriz:
    ps. I was informed a while back that the TI 99/4A was the only home computer that had standalone PLATO courseware, with the PLATO
    cartridge.
    Is this correct
    , anyone? Were the Apple II, Atari, etc. PLATO packages
    terminal-based?

    James, your name is familiar. On AtariAge? I've been trying to place
    your
    name as to either a caller of my BBS, the TI-99/4A Yahoogroup, AtariAge,
    or
    maybe just here on the Retronet.

    I know the TI 99/4A had their standalone PLATO courseware. I did have an agreement with the owners of the PLATO software to legally distribute the Plato diskettes online for a period of 10 years. That timeframe has since elapsed by three or four years if I am not mistaken. I just came across that
    paperwork this past week.

    For people with young children, the PLATO courseware is a good way to introduce them to a computer with some education software.

    Beery

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    Yep, I've posted in all those places, and you're a user on my system. We discussed a TI FDN. even. I'm still up for participating in that if you're still interested.

    You sound pretty busy. Maybe a good 3-day weekend is in order. :-)

    ps did you ever hear back from 'ol John?

    later,



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  • From Beery@FREEWAY to James Digriz on Tue Apr 24 18:44:00 2018
    OK, I saw your tagline from Dragonsweb, now I remember.

    Yes, I did hear back from John. I've left a few posts on a topic of "TI'er
    in Need of Help" on Atariage. Sometime late May, I am going to take stuff
    over to him. I've got someone sending me a PC to take to him so he can at least have a decent version of Windows where he can still do stuff with a browser. Having dial up access for him is pretty poor. I've got a USB modem
    I am going to provide to him along with a USB drive with all kinds of software goodies including MAME and MESS.

    He has such an old version of a web browser on his Windows system he can no longer order prescriptions, do anything with PayPal or Amazon, etc. because they all require a certain more recent browser version.

    There is a Texas Instruments group now here on Retronet.

    I'm presently waiting for the final pieces of the SMTP/POP server parts of Mystic BBS to be in place so I can complete an interface with the YahooGroup. I've already got comp.sys.ti. No way to tie AtariAge into it, and do not
    think Greg would even want that to happen even if it were possible.

    Beery

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  • From James Digriz@FREEWAY to Beery on Tue Apr 24 21:15:00 2018
    Beery wrote to James Digriz:
    OK, I saw your tagline from Dragonsweb, now I remember.

    Yes, I did hear back from John. I've left a few posts on a topic of
    "TI'er
    in Need of Help" on Atariage. Sometime late May, I am going to take stuff over to him. I've got someone sending me a PC to take to him so he can at least have a decent version of Windows where he can still do stuff with a browser. Having dial up access for him is pretty poor. I've got a USB modem
    I am going to provide to him along with a USB drive with all kinds of software
    goodies including MAME and MESS.

    I noticed one of John's posts in the Yahoo 9640 group that he says there is no wireless coverage where he is. I wonder if that's just his local telco, because the carrier that I, wearing a different hat, am a dealer for, uses the "Red" network, if you follow me, and their map says Indiana is almost completely covered, and mostly 4G. Can you confirm that there is definitely no wireless where he is, or netmail me an address so I can find out for sure?



    He has such an old version of a web browser on his Windows system he can
    no
    longer order prescriptions, do anything with PayPal or Amazon, etc.
    because
    they all require a certain more recent browser version.


    By all means I'd like to see him able to use the boards, and the rest of it.

    There is a Texas Instruments group now here on Retronet.

    Yep, and damned if I've figured out how to crosspost with MBSE's internal editor yet. I would like to see a TI file echos, too.


    I'm presently waiting for the final pieces of the SMTP/POP server parts of Mystic BBS to be in place so I can complete an interface with the YahooGroup.
    I've already got comp.sys.ti. No way to tie AtariAge into it, and do not think Greg would even want that to happen even if it were possible.


    Anything to consolidate the community is great, if you ask me. It's a subject I'm studying keenly these days.




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  • From Beery@FREEWAY to James Digriz on Wed Apr 25 06:02:00 2018
    The issue with John's lack of wireless coverage is he apparently sits pretty deep between some hills. Had his elevation been higher, it would be
    different.

    I've got spots near where I live over here in Kentucky where there is no wireless coverage as well. While the rolling hills can be pretty, some of those areas can have blackout spots.

    Beery

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  • From James Digriz@FREEWAY to Beery on Wed Apr 25 09:48:00 2018
    Beery wrote to James Digriz:
    The issue with John's lack of wireless coverage is he apparently sits pretty
    deep between some hills. Had his elevation been higher, it would be different.

    Bummer. Well, while you're there you can check it out. A signal booster might come in handy there, too. And gripe to the utility regulators in IN, about the crappy land-line, if nothing else.

    I'm prepared to scare up a phone for him and cover the cost of the 1st month if
    there's any way for him to get a reasonable signal.





    Greetings, James Digriz
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  • From Geo@FREEWAY to James Digriz on Thu Apr 26 22:32:00 2018
    Re: Re: Plato Online Again
    By: James Digriz to Geo on Tue Apr 24 2018 08:15:46

    Geo wrote to All:
    Hi All,

    I heard this on the RCR podcast and checked it out. very interesting.

    Probably more-so for our U.S. friends who can remember PLATO. 8-)


    Check it out.

    https://www.irata.online/


    You will need a Plato compatible Terminal prog which you can get from the site.

    Kewl. What's the difference between irata.online and cyber1.org? Are they networked in any way?

    I hate fragmentation in community-building.



    Greetings, James Digriz
    email: jbdigriz@bbs.dragonsweb.org



    I think they may be connected, but have different interfaces.

    The irata one has the really nice later PLATO interface rather than just the plain Amber interface of cyber1.


    Regards..Geo
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  • From Geo@FREEWAY to James Digriz on Thu Apr 26 22:36:00 2018
    Re: Re: Plato Online Again
    By: James Digriz to Geo on Tue Apr 24 2018 08:43:04

    Geo wrote to All:
    Hi All,

    I heard this on the RCR podcast and checked it out. very interesting.

    Probably more-so for our U.S. friends who can remember PLATO. 8-)


    Check it out.

    https://www.irata.online/


    You will need a Plato compatible Terminal prog which you can get from the site.
    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo

    Also, were the old notesfiles from NovaNET ever archived? Or are they lost forever?

    ps. I was informed a while back that the TI 99/4A was the only home computer that had standalone PLATO courseware, with the PLATO cartridge. Is this correct
    , anyone? Were the Apple II, Atari, etc. PLATO packages terminal-based?



    Greetings, James Digriz
    email: jbdigriz@bbs.dragonsweb.org


    The Guy running the irata.online thing is actively seeking people to help with the building of clients for almost all the old micro's. He nearly has a C128 one ready, and is working on Atari and Amiga and others.

    As for the content, I had a poke around and it seems to have A LOT of the old LABs and course material up there online too. Which is very neet.

    8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
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  • From James Digriz@FREEWAY to Geo on Thu Apr 26 16:05:00 2018
    Geo wrote to James Digriz:


    The Guy running the irata.online thing is actively seeking people to help with
    the building of clients for almost all the old micro's. He nearly has a C128
    one ready, and is working on Atari and Amiga and others.

    As for the content, I had a poke around and it seems to have A LOT of the old
    LABs and course material up there online too. Which is very neet.

    8-)

    Regards..Geo

    I've since seen his posts on AtariAge, and also a post from someone who just got a lot of items that came from a former TI engineer which appears to include
    an official TI 99/4A Plato Terminal Emulator. Very interesting.

    Speaking of notesfiles, Ray Ozzie is in the news lately with his crypto proposal to allow one-shot unlocking of smartphones by the factory under court order, using a an encrypted PIN. It sounds workable, and it's a brilliant scheme, but it still seems to
    me like key escrow by proxy. To me that's scary, especially when the proxy is public corp, in this day of secret courts and FISA
    warrants for things that seem about as serious as, or as much of a threat to national security as, a pile of unpaid parking tickets.




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  • From deepthaw@FREEWAY to Geo on Thu Feb 20 15:08:24 2020
    I heard this on the RCR podcast and checked it out. very interesting.

    Probably more-so for our U.S. friends who can remember PLATO. 8-)

    I did a little poking around on IRATA a few weeks ago from my Apple IIe. I
    need to check back in now that I have a slight amount more free time and I think I figured out why it was crashing at anything above 2400bps.

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